From your experience with your sound exercises, you now know more about what it takes to get good audio from a piece of film. Your final films will have dialogue in them, so you'll be needing to get great quality audio from what you film. I would like for you to comment on the following questions...
1. What are some of the challenges to getting consistently great sound from a camcorders?
2. Do you think it's going to be tough to get good audio for a narrative film? What makes you think that?
3. If you were going to give advice to someone just picking up a camcorder for the first time, what would you say to them about where and how to film?
posted by Alicia Corts @ 9:32 AM
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some problems of getting good sound from camcorders are that you have to be close to or facing the person that you are recording and to get consistent sound from them you would have to be in the same place at the same distance and always facing the person too. yes its going to be hard to get good audio for our last film but not too hard. if i had to give advice to someone it would be that you need to film in a quiet film for dialauge and that you need to get as close as you can to the person that you are filming
1. the challenges are that you need to find a very quiet room with no outside noise and nobody talking in the backround unless you want someone talking in the backround.
2. yes because on a narrative film the narrirator needs to have a clear sounding voice with no outside noise so that peope can completely hear him, and if it is hard to get a quiet room then it will be hard to have a clear voice with no outside noise.
3. i would tell them to go to a room with no one in it and close there eyes and listen to the noises in the room to see if it is a quiet room or a loud room. then film in the room if it is quiet. then i would tell them to make sure that they dont break the 180 degree rule so that people wont get confused if that person has two people talking to each other in a the film that that that person is filming.
sometimes when you're trying to get great sound its hard to find a room that has the sound you want. The camcorder also has bad sound on it already! Depending on the room you are in the sound for a narrative film would still be less than good. If you want a lot of sound but you have very few people, get a room that echoes.
Some of the challenges to getting great sound consistently are what kind of room you are in, who is in the room at the time, what is happening in other rooms around that room, and where the camera is placed within the room. Yes, it's going to be tough to always get good audio for a narrative film because people don't always talk exactly the same, the camera isn't always in the same place and with the camera being closer or further from the person, the camera will pick up different sounds. If someone was picking up a camcorder for the first time, I would first tell them that filming in different places give different effects. If you want to film a loud and popular place, you would need to go into a big room where noise would travel and it would seem to be a popular place. If you want a quiet scene, you have to be in a very quiet place where there won't be many people or other noises and distractions around that the camera could potentially pick up. I would tell them about the rule of thirds and then to just film and see what they get and then they can make the changes through trial and error.
1. I feel that some of the challenges of getting a constant good sound while using a camcorder is that each room has a diffedrent sound so it is had to keep everything sounding the same if you don't use the same room for thoughout the film.
2. I think that getting audio for a narrative is going to be tough because there will most likely be taling and other sounds going on in the classroom so you have to make sure the classroom is quite while doing your voice over.
I think this is true because if there is talking in the background you wont be able to hear the narrator.
3. I would tell them to make sure they know of all the sounds that could be going on the the room where they are filming. Also make sure you know how loud the actors have to talk in this room. I would also tell them to get a lot of different shots from many different angles. ( tell them about the 180 degree rule)
Some challenges are that you will have to know what the sound is like in the room or area you are filming. You will have to remember where the people in the shot are standing and find out where the best sound is from there. I think it might be pretty difficult to get good sound but I think I will be able to do it pretty well. It will be difficult because I will have to know what the sound is like in the room that I film in and if I could do it better in a different room. I would say to them that they should listen quietly to each room they think they will be filming in and determine which one would have a greater sound and which one would have a smaller sound. I would tell them that when they are filming they should hold the camera as steady as possible and keep people in the upper right and left corners of the camera to keep it in the rule of 3rds.
Some challenges of getting a great sound from a camcorder is the place where you are, most rooms you film were not made for sound, unless its like a solitary confinement room. Also you will always have people around being noisy and stuff. I think it is hard to get good audio for a narrative film because you have to be in a silent room where there is no one but the actors and the filmer to get the best audio. Which will never happen, most of the time at least. For a person just picking up a camcorder I would tell them that it will be kind of hard to get good sound and to try and do it when no one is around because you will be able to hear what the actors are saying. Also to tell them to just film it and be done, don't try to over do it your first time
1. some challenges to getting consistently great sound is that you need to find a room that has the correct noise level that you what, that being loud or soft. also you get a clearer sound from your actor if you are facing them. To make sure that your sound doestn't alter between a conversation between people, stay in the same room for both recordings.
2. i think it is going to be a challenge to get a good audio for a narrative film because you need to be in the same room with the same sounds coming from it, no more and no less. this will make it so that you need to record about the same time, this will ensure that your marrative is the best it can be.
3. soem advice i would tell them about getting the best sound for their film would to first decide when you want a quit space and when you want a loud space to film in. once you have decided that i would tell you about some dialouge filming tecniques, like when you film people having a conversation record it three times, one from a front angle, one from behind the shoulder, and the other from behind the other person's sholder. i would also tell them to not break the 180 degree rule, if you break the 180 degree rule your audience will be confused to what is happening and who is talking to who. try to get your actors to say their lines the same way each time, because i know from expierience if they don't and you attemt to do a j-cut it will look very strange. when you walk into the room you are think of filmng in always listen to see if the sound is how you want it, also try talking to see how much the room will echo when you are filming.
Some challenges about getting constant good sound from a camcorder could be any number of things like people walking and talking in the back round of the shot and the camcorder picks up almost everything so that is a problem, another problem is shooting in rooms that echo so it seems like there is a crowd in the room.
I think that it would be hard to get good audio for a narrative film because you are going to have to try to get the same level of audio in each shot and you have to get the words to flow from one scene to another.
If someone were using a camcorder for the first time I would tell them about the rule of thirds and how to use that to capture interest. I would also tell them about how to film with good audio by making sure the audio matches with each shot.
1. You have to make sure that you are filming in a place where there isn't alot of bussiness if you are trying to film a quiet shot.
2. I think that it's not going to be extremely difficult but you have to make sure that the person talking is talking clear and loud because I have found that in the other movies I have filmed that you catch audio from other people talking and it doesn't sound very good.
3. I would tell them to make sure you have everything planned, know what shots your going to use, find somewhere quiet if that's what kind of shot you need, and don't make your shots to long.
Some of the challenges to get great sound from a camcorder is making sure that your surroundings are quiet. That includes people around you talking loudly, the wind blowing very hard, or any background music etc. depending on where you are. The person speaking should also try to speak at a certain volume the whole time so they are not really loud but then really soft. Also since you are so close to the mic you have to make sure that you are not making any noise.
I think that it will be kind of hard to get good audio for my film since Im filming in a store most of the time. Other customers could come in and there could be music. But it wont be too bad since there wont be too much dialouge in the film.
I would tell them to set up their shots before hand and also get used to the camera before filming, They should practice some of their shots. They should think about who will be around when they film and how the lighing will be. And about any extra sounds that could be around.
To have good sound quality you need to be close to the person talking. You don't have to be super close but, just enough so your camera picks it up. The only reason it would be tuff to get good audio would be because of a loud surrounding. If you filmed in a rather quiet place your audio would be magical. I think this because if your in a quiet room the only thing the camera needs to pick up is your voices. I would tell them to make sure you do some really fun and crazy angles. If i told a begining filmer how to film, i would say make sure your plot is interesting and you keep the shots at an effective place. Film in a good enviroment that fits your story...
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